Saints and Cowboys
- the Good, Bad & Ugly Sides of Service


After over fifteen years of trying my best to help customers (and potential customers) with technical issues at work (which sometimes includes dealing with very irrational and irate people), I have come to appreciate good Service - and am more critical of bad Service. To this end, I have decided to create a list of Saints and Cowboys, detailing particularly good or bad Service that I have experienced recently.

Remember, DON'T GET MAD, GET EVEN!

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SAINTS / GOODIES


  • Stüber, Overath, near Köln, Germany

    Angel (9 Kb) We delivered our BRA 289 to Stüber on Monday 4th December 2000, to have an additional fuel tank fitted (underneath the boot floor) and a new stainless steel exhaust system. We were verbally quoted about DM600 (£194) for the tailored manufacture and fitting of this secondary fuel tank, and up to DM1500 (£546) to replace the exhaust system. When we returned on Wednesday 6th December to collect the car, we were charged DM650 (£210) for the new 75 litre stainless steel petrol tank (including sourcing and calibrating a new fuel guage sender, and modifying the existing 36 litre tank to drain into the new tank), and DM750 (£242) for the exhaust system (new twin pipes, but using the existing manifold and rear silencers). At my request, they made up a cross-pipe (to link the left and right sides of the exhaust system just after the L-shaped downpipes, but because the exhaust note sounded odd with this, remade the two downpipes without the cross-link - all within the above price!

    Unfortunately, this secondary tank sprang a leak whilst we were on holiday in Corsica in May 2001, so we had to return the BRA to Stüber for repairs when we got back to Germany - update to follow here soon.


  • Gerry Hawkridge, Hawkridge Developments, Frant, Sussex, England

    Angel (9 Kb) Individual examples too numerous to list, but as well as being a leading authority, Gerry replies promptly to all my faxed pleas for help, even on Saturday evenings or Sundays - well above and beyond the call of duty, a true enthusiast; many thanks, Gerry.


  • Peter Brouwers, Roermond, Nederlands

    Angel (9 Kb) I sent a fax on 31-12-99, requesting him to contact me (to arrange a visit to estimate the cost of repairing our BRA 289 car). Despite it being New Years' Eve, Peter phoned back within 30 minutes, and we agreed to meet up the following Saturday morning. Once he saw the car, he was honest enough to say that he couldn't do a satisfactory repair for the price that we had been quoted elsewhere, so turned the job down!


  • Martin Pickering, SatCure, England

    Angel (9 Kb) Within seven hours of sending an e-mail (on a Sunday) requesting advice on how to repair our two (and my brother-in-law's) faulty Pace satellite receivers, Martin had replied with his suggestions. I duly ordered the kits he suggested - which arrived on Thursday, only four days later. The first two repair kits I fitted cured all the faults in the MSS300 and MSS500 receivers - but now we can watch television again, I have not fitted the PRD800 kit yet!
    Excellent advice, prompt service, and fair prices - what more can you ask for?! Well done, Martin. If anyone has any problems with their satellite receiver, visit Martin's comprehensive web site at http://www.netcentral.co.uk/satcure/


  • Auto Koch, Bonn-Beuel, Germany

    Angel (9 Kb) Despite the fact that our Renault Clio Williams does not fit into their collection of cars for sale (mostly Mercedes SL & SLKs, Ferrari Testarossa, Jaguar XK8, BMW Z1 & Z3, etc.) they have offered to help us sell the car for an agreed price. Anything over this sum is their profit, and if unsuccessful, they will not charge us for their efforts in keeping the car well-presented. This may be too good an offer to turn down. They can be contacted at http://www.autoscout24.de/Partner/Auto-Koch

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    COWBOYS / BADDIES


  • Maples Solicitors, Spalding, Lincolnshire, England

    Skull head (10 Kb) Firstly, lack of communication (the delays were excused usually by the partner being on holiday - when do they actually do any work?) hindered the purchase process for all of our three houses in England. Worse still, with the first house purchase, when the builders pressured us to exchange contracts on schedule, Maples lied to us and the builders, claiming that the contracts had been posted to us over one month earlier, and trying to swing the blame for the delays onto ourselves. Maples then charged us for a second set of contracts to be drawn up and sent to us, and after all the dust had settled and we had completed the purchase, we eventually received the original contracts - the late postmark on the envelope providing the evidence of their lies.
    Secondly, eight months after we received approval to transfer our first mortgage across from the Melton Mowbray Building Society to the Yorkshire Bank (during which time Maples just sat on the paperwork again, because the responsible (?) partner was on holiday again), the mortgage transfer was finally completed. This delay cost us over £300 on the higher mortgage rates of the Melton Mowbray Building Society (see below), plus Maples' fees of over £205 (to write a couple of letters!). And we are still waiting for an apology, in preference to the excuses and lies offered.


  • Melton Mowbray Building Society, Grantham, Lincolnshire, England

    Skull head (10 Kb) Which brings us on to the second Cowboys Award - the Melton Mowbray Building Society insisted on charging us 2% above the standard base rate for our mortgage (just because we live in Germany!) - currently (Feb. 2000) at 9.3%, repayable over 25 years. This is a scandalous discrimination, which should not be legal in this civilised (?) world, and is fortunately not practised by all companies - the Yorkshire Bank offered us a rate of 5.74% (fixed for 5 years) on a mortgage repayable over 17 years 10 months!


  • Snogard Computers, Frechen, Köln, Germany

    Skull head (10 Kb) I purchased a new computer (in component form, without monitor) for DM2027 (£654) from Snogard in mid-November'99. Hardly any items were in the original packaging, they supplied me with the wrong keyboard (later reluctantly exchanged), a mouse (with the wrong driver), a DVD-ROM drive (with no driver, so it would not even function as a basic CD-ROM drive), and a hard disc that had no Master Boot Record - I suspect this is why the PC is now so unstable. Despite my repeated requests for help, Snogard have refused to assist me (perhaps they are even less PC-literate than I am!). Meanwhile, I downloaded a suitable mouse driver from the Microsoft web site, and obtained a CD-ROM driver from another site, but Snogard refused to exchange the DVD-ROM drive for a cheaper CD-ROM drive, expecting me to pay an additional DM199 (£64) for a DVD-ROM driver - in order to use the DVD-ROM drive that cost DM179 (£58). I then placed the matter in the hands of my solicitor, and even Snogard can probably guess where my next PC will NOT come from?
    UPDATE - after almost 7 months, Snogard have refunded (in full) the purchase price of DM179 (£58) for this DVD-ROM drive, and paid the DM25 (£8) UPS courier costs to get the drive back to their premises. Because this same DVD-ROM drive now costs DM299 (£96) in their current price list, far be it from me to suggest that Snogard would sell this drive on to another unsuspecting sucker as a new item for the full DM299 (£96), but perhaps this explains why most of the items I purchased were wrapped only in bubble film or plastic bags, rather than the original manufacturers' packaging?
    I have now replaced this drive with a CD-RW unit from VV Computers in Troisdorf-Spich (from where I purchased my monitor).


  • Nicolin Electronics GbR, Neunkirchen-Seelscheid, Germany

    Skull head (10 Kb) After a cable fault which caused the 13/18V supply (for the LNB) in my Pace MSS300 satellite receiver to fail, I found a web site that explained how to repair the unit (and offered all the necessary components for £8,95 - see Martin Pickering above). However, due to a lack of time (I was trying to sort out my new PC, see Snogard above), I decided to let a local company (Nicolin) repair the unit. They estimated the repairs would cost about DM70 (£22), so I authorised them to go ahead - provided the sum of DM100 (£32) would not be exceeded. One week later, they phoned to say the receiver was repaired - for which they charged DM156,45 (£51), and whilst they had restored the missing 13/18V supply, the Videocrypt decoder was then dead. This new fault is more severe (and Nicolin want "significantly more money, about DM200" (£64) to repair this), so I contacted Martin Pickering, whose kit for £8,95 (DM27) sorted the problems.
    We used the same company to install our digital satellite dish on the roof at home (not much other choice, living out in the sticks) on 16.02.01 - it took their "technician" over 4 hours to align the dish, as a result of which Nicolin invoiced us over DM730 (£235), expecting us to pay for the incompetence of their staff. Think again, guys, we have paid what we feel to be a reasonable sum (DM405 / £131), and await legal action from Nicolin if they insist on the invoiced amount to be paid! Incidentally, it is against the safety regulations (and therefore illegal) in Germany for an installation technician (however competant or otherwise) to work alone on the roof of a three-story building, Nicolin!


  • Steve Porter, Managing Director of Formula 27 cars, England

    Skull head (10 Kb) Not only is the service appalling, Steve attempts to compensate for his ignorance with abuse. This company does not deserve to be, and probably will not be, in business for much longer. There just isn't space to list his attitude here - just one example of his 'charming' manners can be seen on our web page dedicated to this @rsehole

    Update on 28.11.2002 - Steve Porter no longer has control over the Formula 27 car. He still owns the company, but the manufacturing rights now belong to YKC (Don Burt, Yorkshire Kit Cars).


  • Herr Thiebus, Reifen Thiebus, Neunkirchen-Seelscheid, Germany

    Skull head (10 Kb) Having eventually found a company (VM77) who could make up the wishbone that Steve Porter of Formula 27 failed to supply (see above), I gave the car to this local tyre specialist for them to straighten the wishbone mounting bracket and set up the tracking accordingly. They refused to give me a written estimate for the work (but verbally stated that it would take between 1 and 2 hours), but once completed, charged me over DM623 (£200) for this job, claiming that the wishbone was not properly manufactured by VM77! Thiebus possibly knows how to fit tyres, but they certainly don't have any more knowledge than Steve Porter when it comes to repairing cars, and you can guess where I will NOT purchase any tyres from in future.


  • Geoff Bedding, Hi-Spec Motorsport, Dartford, England

    Skull head (10 Kb) I sent a fax to Geoff Bedding at Hi-Spec on 30th August 2000 to order an uprated front brake kit for our BRA 289, and eagerly awaited a reply. Despite sending further faxes (on 11th September, 25th September, 6th October, 17th November and 11th December - all of which were ignored), and many long-distance telephone calls, I still seemed to be no nearer owning this brake kit. Finally, Geoff agreed (on 18th December, during yet another pleading phone call from me) to make up a set of discs and source the appropriate calipers, so that I could collect the complete kit from his premises on Wednesday 27th December 2000 between 10:00 and 11:00 am, on our way back to Germany (this was to be a belated Christmas present, from me to myself).
    Come the fateful day, we lost over half an hour driving around in circles following Geoff's useless and inaccurate directions, tried to phone him for help (no answer), and finally found his place (by accident) at 10:30 am - but it was all locked up! We waited outside until 11:15 am (in freezing temperatures) before finally giving up and driving on to Dover, where we missed the boarding of our Hoverspeed Seacat sailing by just a few minutes (see below for consequences).
    So, don't drive out of your way to collect anything from Geoff at Hi-Spec, even if you have his personal assurance that the items will be in stock, and that he will be open at the agreed times - and I am still waiting for a reply to the note I slipped through his letter-box when we visited!
    Unfortunately, my experiences with Geoff are not unique, and pale into insignificance when compared with those of Trevor Nicosia - visit http://www.nyssa.ltd.uk/Y10/wankers.shtml if you are in any doubt!
    I have been informed by Neil Lewis that Geoff also features on the EvoForum for Lancia Delta Integrales, at http://www.delphi.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=evoforum&msg=1494.1


  • Hoverspeed Ferries, Dover, England

    Skull head (10 Kb) Having just missed our booked sailing (see Hi-Spec above), Hoverspeed refused to slip us onto the next sailing (despite their being ample space), insisting that our 'special-offer' 3 day ticket (for 'only' £101) had just expired, so we had to buy a new full-price single ticket for £116,50!
    Even if it is the "Time to be Merry, and Goodwill to all Men", don't expect Hoverspeed to let you onto the Seacat after your booked sailing (even our offer, suggested by the Travel Agents that we used to book the ticket, to pay the £40 price difference to upgrade from a 3 day to a 5 day return was laughingly refused!). Luckily, the competition were much more sympathetic, and offered us a reduced-price ticket to get back to Calais for only £42. Many thanks to the kind gentleman at P&O Dover East!
    For the last 7 years or so, I have always chosen to use the Hoverspeed (Hovercraft or Seacat) Calais-Dover-Calais crossing, but that was the last time.


  • Herr Möller and Frau Selbach, Auslanderamt, Siegburg, Germany

    Skull head (10 Kb) These two burocrats deserve their own page, which you can view here.


    Thanks, guys, and I hope that the new Millenium brings you all that you deserve, good or bad!

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